Discussion: If the vaccine spike is toxic and dangerous, the viral spike would only circulate if septicaemia were present (Martin Z) or would be toxic by nature (Annelise B).

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Discussion: If the vaccine spike is toxic and dangerous, the viral spike would only circulate if septicaemia were present (Martin Z) or would be toxic by nature (Annelise B).- 2
Discussion: If the vaccine spike is toxic and dangerous, the viral spike would only circulate if septicaemia were present (Martin Z) or would be toxic by nature (Annelise B).- 3

Tense debate on the dangers of the viral spike. Agreement on the dangers of the vaccine spike

Published on 26 October 2025 by pgibertie

Hélène Banoun:

Spike is toxic. But a controlled viral infection does not release free (circulating) Spike. So toxic Spike circulates only after mRNA vaccination or if the infection is allowed to develop to septicaemia.

So there is no toxicity in the case of a mild case of Covid. Only severe, untreated Covids release toxic Spike throughout the body ” YES, FREE Spike in quantities is a toxin, NO, the entire virus is not TOXIC, except in the case of septicaemia. WITH Omicron and its sons, SARS2 has become just a common cold… not dangerous. And the polyvaxes have a problem, because mass vaccination has led to a directed evolution of SARS to TARGET these preferred people… (just Darwinism in action, alas)… and with a rather shaky immunity, they catch EVERYTHING that passes under their noses, literally…

We all have ‘non stop sicks’ around us… the reason is not a toxin, but diminished immunity due to the 1 MPU (methyl-pseudouridine) in RNA vaccines!”

@MartinZ_uncut on X:

How do you explain what people who think they’ve got it make of the lifecycles of viruses?

  1. Sars, including sars2 , and all viruses have proteins on their envelope.

These proteins, such as spike, are where the virus attaches itself to our cells.

  1. When the spike is within the viral membranes it is bound, and does not go everywhere! A virus is huge compared to the protein ALONE.
    This protein alone is toxic and can go almost anywhere.
  2. During a viral infection, the virus reproduces itself identically in the infected cells. A virus does this by CONTROLLING stoichiometry (i.e. the number of proteins needed to make a whole virus again).

For example, if we have 3 proteins and the whole virus has 15 copies of protein A, 10 of protein B and 3 of protein C, production will take place at these ratios 15/10/3. The daughter viruses self-assemble within the infected cells (this is called viral packaging and viral routing). These cells then burst open and the viruses released can infect other cells.

Biology is very efficient – at NO time are proteins produced +++ and therefore free (except in minute quantities!).

  1. This virus was not very dangerous (both in terms of mortality and morbidity)… but the authorities treated people badly –
  • we have stopped primary care medicine,
  • Locked people in their homes to infect the whole household,
  • had people take grams of doliprane for days on end to KILL the (protective) fever, which was another major mistake and had the effect of worsening the production of viruses (and yes, fever reduces viral reproduction)
  • prevent doctors from dealing with COMPLICATIONS

5. Complications is the key word
Viruses – even cold viruses – left to their own devices can lead to 2 major complications:

  • bacterial and fungal co-infections and colonisations
  • acute respiratory distress (bronchial plugs, oxygen depletion, physical destruction of the pulmonary aveoli, etc.).
    And if the virus progresses to the septicaemic phase, you end up in the ICU with MOF (multiple organ failure).

Why, if SARS2 is a cold, was it more dangerous?
The secret is the rapidity of complications.
With a common cold or flu infection, complications are rare and occur after 8-10 days in some patients, so we have time to see them and treat them before complications arise…
… and so by leaving patients to their own devices, we weren’t able to treat these complications in time, as people were at home and told not to go to the doctor… so these complications led them into respiratory distress and… to the ICU (with a 50% probability of dying, once at the MOF stage!).

Why did it go so fast and so deep?
If you look at the sequences of some of its surface proteins, they contain motifs (i.e. small sequences) known to facilitate this and above all known to “STICK” to cell walls.

So SARS2 – was FAST, went deep, and stuck to the membranes +++.

  1. SO in a NORMAL infection, where we would have let people go to the doctors, and if we had focused on these complications – there would have been few serious septicaemias, and no PROBLEM of spike as a toxin!

We didn’t do that… and so we had lots of septicaemic patients hospitalised in ICUs, and major toxaemia (MOF) with free spike… storms of cytokines and viral overproduction.

So it’s not the spike that presents a serious danger, but the septicaemia. the uncontrolled viral hyper-production that turned the spike into an EXOTOXIN (free toxin).

  1. Now the delta variant (January 2020! and yes, it had another name at the time – I made 2 posts about it, with all the details and evidence from Public health england) had 5 TIMES lower mortality and morbidity than the basic SARS2 and its alpha variant.
    The Omicron variant at the end of 2022, had a mortality 200 TIMES lower than that of influenza … and was safe for the unvaccinated, and showed a selective preference for polyvax – infection rates, consultations, ICU, morbidity and mortality DIRECTLY proportional to the number of vaccines (sad .. I posted this UK data on several occasions!

So with omicron, SARS2 has become ENDEMIC and not dangerous…

  • except for polyvacccines – apparently with more than 2-3 doses)

8. Why do some people insist on using the spike, even for minor infections?

The authorities want to hide their failure, and deliberate malice… so

  • any side effects of the vaccine due to RNA and the REAL toxicity of the FREE spike in large quantities can, by a sleight of hand, be attributed to the virus itself … if this confusion between free protein and whole virus is maintained!
  • it also means they can CONTINUE to sell useless tests
  • this allows the authorities (especially in the EU and France) to keep the circus going a little longer (the famous Frankenstein variant… that was a daring one!).

— PS —

YES, FREE spike in quantities is a toxin
NO, the whole virus is not TOXIC, except for septicaemia
With Omicron and sons, SARS2 became just a common cold… not dangerous.
And polyvaxes have a problem, because mass vaccination has led to a directed evolution of SARS to TARGET these preferred people… (just Darwinism in action, alas)… and with a slightly crazy immunity, they literally catch EVERYTHING that passes under their noses!

We all have “non-stop sicks” around us… the reason is not a toxin, but diminished immunity due to the 1 MPU of RNA vaccines!

@AnneliseBocquet on X:

SARS-CoV-2: HIV-LIKE + PRION The Spike IS a BIG problem… and it’s the Spike of the virus AND of anti-covid injections. It is degenerative. And these degenerative properties are linked to immune tolerance mechanisms and carcinogenic properties. Je ne sais plus comment le dire. https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1935247019376812065?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1921481348583240131?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1921473004363559312?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1978172379474919920?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1978339624691896787?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1978366581022351710?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1925988211114860587?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1972580416239329404?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1977825796099027027?t=irXAxccC1WVhzv3oYNoJvw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1937037740127686829?t=t5NRSjLuz1pyFx2UoXXHxw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/1908095717182169419?t=t5NRSjLuz1pyFx2UoXXHxw&s=19https://x.com/AnneliseBocquet/status/19591580

Doctor in health biology, teacher of haematology-immunology. The perfect profile to go unnoticed in a world where clicks prefer buzz to rigour.

But today, that’s no longer possible. Because what she publishes explores areas that everyone else avoids: the Spike protein, the innate immune system, the invisible long-term effects.

PubMed+2ResearchGate+2 Because it’s no longer the future: it’s the present. What she explains in plain language for everyone: – The virus does not behave like a simple attack that is repelled and then forgotten. It sets up strategies: silence, immune tolerance, stealthy passage. You don’t repel what you can’t see.

The Spike protein interacts with interferons, triggering inflammatory loops and creating dormant reservoirs. PubMed+1 – This same Spike, in its “vaccine” version, is not the simple magic trick we are being sold. It contains sequences that the body is not designed to deal with over the long term. – It requires you to understand: an appropriate diagnosis, biomarkers and follow-up. Not tomorrow. Now

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